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JohnDeezy89
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Re: Hurney is Gone!!!

Lol, the Bill Cowher talk has already started up again.  Rather Rivera stays or goes, I hope we finish strong for Cam's sake.  The kid needs it.

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Hurney needed to go.  He did ok on 1st round picks but never hit on lower round picks.  If building thru the draft and not spending on high priced free agents is your philosophy  you can't trade future number higher round picks just to move up a few spots in a lower round that same year.  Hurney did this twice for Everett Brown and Armanti Edwards.  If you don't want to overpay in the free agent market, and I don't then you have to hoard draft picks.  High round especially 1st round picks are easier to get right as you go down rounds in the draft things get murkier.


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And thats key right there, first rounds picks are easy to get right. We haven't had back to back winning seasons and it is getting old. We don't want to become the browns or jags where losing is a culture and if we get a good season in we are satisfied for 3 seasons after. The falcons have turned things around in atl and we need to do the same. We aint the bucs!

Rivera prolly needs to go next! What harm will it do? We not winning...


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Re: Hurney is Gone!!!

I for one think the club will miss 20 in one way and be better for not having him in another!

Of course he will be missed from a experience stand point, he is a bigger CB and one that is capable of making some plays!

But that said, 20 has also been one to forget to tackle on occassions...seemingly he has never stepped up and into a leadership role as a veteran...I wonder at times...and even having too wonder ar all is not good...wonder if 20 loves winning as much as he does cashing his paycheck? Having seen way to many times where he didnt appear to sell out his body on a tackle...I dont think he loves the physical nature of football enough to become a elite NFL CB...Just my opinion about his level of play over the yrs!

While his expereince maybe missed...I am not so certain his mentality of play will be missed much at all...he may in fact be part of the lack of leadership void the Panthers are missing in the lockerroom!


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all this talk about lack of player leadership is befuddling. Cant imagine why players would not naturally do things teams need to do in order to win! Like holding themselves accountable for giving it their all with on field and off the field preparation and want too!

That said, I do also hold the opinion that Coach Rivera has mistakenly given them a out for lossing...that out being young and not knowing how to close games out! Some times in sports it is best not to belabor a point, because subconsciously it can create a underlying defeatest mindset!

Back in the 1970's Nebraska had a difficult time beating Oklahoma...for like 7-8 straight yrs they would blow leads -v- Oklahoma in the 2nd half and 4th qts...often in the last 2 minutes of the game! This dynamic had a name called SOONER MAGIC...both Nebraska and Oklahoma refered to this Sooner Magic...it was indeed a mental block for Nebraska which they had to overcome as well as over coming the Oklahoma football team!

At this point in time...I think the Panthers organization is battling a mental mindset of lossing and finding ways to lose!


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Re: Hurney is Gone!!!

All this team needs is that one game in which all facets are clicking at the same time...and it translates into a win.  They need to believe in themselves again, and beating Chicago would definitely allow for that to happen.

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I'm losing confidence in Rivera.  I was somewhat worried 3 weeks ago, now after Hurney getting canned I think Rivera better get this team on a winning streak right away to keep his job.  Chances are a new GM/Football operations guy will want a new coach, the only way Rivera could keep the job is finishing with a winning record.


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