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Media Lies About Jake Delhomme

I've been sifting through all the articles about our franchise QB.  Before I post these stats, I want to remind everyone of 2 important facts:

1)  The ARZ game was bad.  Really bad.  The worst game of Jake's career.  Monday's game was not nearly as bad.  The ARZ game, Jake had time to make passes and forced things into double coverage and didn't read the defense very well. 

2)  The O-Line failed miserably Sunday and, as Jordan Gross said, maybe only Michel Vick in his prime could have escaped the pressure play after play on Jake.  He only made a few mad decisions in that game.  The first INT was double tipped (line and Smith tipped it), the fumble was ridiculous fail by the O-line, the second INT was a forced pass to Smith, a good play by the CB, and Jake just trying to put the game on his shoulders and make a play.  The third INT was Jake doing what the coach told him to:  complete a screen pass to D-Will.  The problem is the rush was so quick and so many blitzed that not only was he hit in less than 2 seconds, but the actually blitzed D-WIll too, hence the pick. 

The last INT I blame Fox for.  We ran 2 long passes to Moose at the start of the game and Jake out-threw him both times because Moose is too slow for those.  That messed up Jake's timing--I promise.  The Smith deep pass he under-threw not because of his arm being weak but because he tried to lay off of it some so that he wouldn't over throw again.  In all honesty, that pass was 3-5 yards from being a 70 yard TD that could have changed the game.  I blame the stupid Moose routes messing up the flow of Jake's pass.


Ok, with that stated as what I believe, I have heard on multiple occasions that Jake didn't really have it last year, especially not after the Bye week.  I have heard he hasn't had it since the NFC Championship game in '05 too.  To avoid a long post, here are the FACTS on how Jake did last year:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/gamelog?playerId=1693&sYear=2008

He had 6 games last year with a Passer Rating higher than 100, and 4 of those were 120+.

He had one really awful game against Oakland.  If you take that game out, his rating for the year goes up from 85 (which is one of the best in the league FYI), to 89.53.  If you take out the first TB game, which the entire team struggled, not just him, it goes up to 93.16!!!

That would make him the 7th best passer last year, just .6 points behind Aaron Rodgers for 6th place.

My point is that Jake had a pretty phenomenal year last year that he doesn't get proper credit for.  He had 1 super bad game and 1 bad game, a few mediocre games, and the rest were pretty incredible.  50% of his INT's in the regular season came in the Oakland game and the first TB game.  Also, he only had 15 passing TD's b/c our running game was so good.

Now, the media lie that pisses me off:  "Jake fell off the map after the bye week."  Did he?  Really?

The Oakland game was bad.  We won b/c of our running attack.  Period.  But Jake rebounded after that and was a Top QB.

He followed that up with games of ~86, 97, 104, 74, 94, 91, and ended the season with an amazing 129.2 against NO.  So other than the 2nd Tampa Bay game in which he really played solid for us, he only ended the season with one game below 90 passer rating and 2 games above 100, averaging a 96.43 passer rating the last 7 games of the season.  Yea, he really fell off the map......

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THE VERDICT:   

Jake just doesn't play well with breaks.  He builds off momentum.  He generally doesn't open the season well either.  Since our QB, here are his season opening ratings:

2003:  77.5  W  (11-5 record, infamous Super Bowl run)
2004:  88.0  L  (We lost Smith in opener and had lots of injuries)
2005:  65.5  L  (11-5 record, Pro-Bowl Season, loss in NFC Championship) 
2006:  56.1  L  (Jake was injured and Keyshawn disrupted the locker room)
2007:  125.4 W  (Jake started a career year, 3 games above 100pr b4 injury)
2008:  82.1  W  (Solid performance; 12-4 season...you know the rest)

Looking back historically, Jake never lights up the opener and we all know how he feeds off momentum.  He had 6 months between games and the O-line never gave him a chance to win back the trust of nay-sayers.

If he continues to suck into our Bye and hasn't come out of his funk by week 8, then yes, he is done.  But goodness alive, we are turning on a historically 8-12th ranked QB in the league and pronouncing the end of his career without analyzing the facts at all.

I just did more in 20 minutes of looking at stats than you will read in any stupid article by the AP, Pat Y, or anyone in the national or Charlotte media.  If you read the entire post, you should at least agree that it's WAY to early to tell if Jake has "lost it" and that history would indicate he has a SOLID game coming up on Sunday for ATL.


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Re: Media Lies About Jake Delhomme

I really hope he has a beast game against ATL and comes out and plays in his '03 form.  No one is pulling for the guy harder than I am and I am struggling with trust issues.  If he isn't playing well by Dallas, its time to do something because being 0-3 in our division is potentially the bottom and we can't wait until october to get our first win of the year because by them NO could be 4-0 and ATL could be 3-1.  Hell TB could be 2-2


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Re: Media Lies About Jake Delhomme

BTW, if you are really looking at it "statistically," the Oakland game's stats should be thrown out because they are an outlier and screw the overall numbers.  The first TB game wasn't TOO far off, although it was by far the 2nd worse game of the year for Jake.  I just wanted to add that because some people will say "but you said IF when it happened" about adjusting Jake's passer rating to about a 90 when in reality, it produces a more accurate statistic of his season play.


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Re: Media Lies About Jake Delhomme

Good stuff... I can not say I disagree with anything you said...

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Re: Media Lies About Jake Delhomme

All good points, and I wholeheartedly agree that Jake should be the starter and rumors of his demise have been greatly exaggerated by just about everyone. I also don't believe that our season is over like many people, even members of the Growl, would have you believe with the way they are talking.

But statistics don't completely reflect how he played. In both the Green Bay game and the NO game last season, and many games in seasons past, I'm sure some of his numbers were helped by phenomenal plays by Steve Smith. That's not to take away from Jake; I believe he has been the 8-12th best QB in the league the past since he has entered, mostly from what I've seen him do late in the game and leadership-wise. I just don't take statistics as scripture.


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I have never cared about stats.  They are for lossers.  I care about wins and have stood behind Delhomme because thats what he gives us, but if he can't deliver then he can't.  I'm not hating but i just don't want to hold onto the guy too long.  I'll give him Sunday in ATL and maybe monday in Dallas, but unless he delivers there will be no delivering the guy from 4 straight games of failure.


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Re: Media Lies About Jake Delhomme

I am pulling for jake, he has done a lot more good than harm for this team.


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