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Yeah I almost forgot in my earlier post to say I don't think Cowher is a fit.  I would want the next Cowher not old Cowher.  Which Bill Parcells was great,  the first one with the giants.  He was good at other stops but he didn't win the   
Super Bowl.  To me it is all about winning the super bowl.


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should the team change HC's in the near future...Samoria Mike Singletary....he'll be grown experieince-wise w/SF...(just a feeliing he will bring them back to a level of respectability and playoff calibur/contending play-so he may not have the need to leave...although SF is certainly not the organization top-to-bootum it was 10-15-20 yrs ago...Carolina is a superior organization---so he may want to leave)...he does not spit but he never-ever blinks...and that is just plan scary!


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Yeah, when Singletary took over last year I thought he might be good.  I also think Russ Grimm the o-line/asst head coach in AZ from the steelers might be a good candidate too.  I do tend to prefer defensive guys but a tough guy is good and Grimm was tough.


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PanthersClawzRComin2Town
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carolinas#1reporter wrote:

Until Fox puts together back to back winning seasons, his head will continously remain on the chopping block. Fox has too many bad habits that have been seen for seven years now(loyalty to a fault, unprepared for games, unwillingness to adjust) & I dont think he will change. A change of coaches may do this team some good, especially if he fails to put together a winning season this year.
I couldnt agree more. The talent is still here for another good run this year, so you'd have to think that if we fall short of anything but a divisional playoff win, that Richardson will send him on his way.

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jayj6
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You guys must not know Richardson very well.

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PanthersClawzRComin2Town
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Okay, first let me say that if you want to slam Fox and co. fine, but can we please stop the insane call for Cowher to come into town.  I know the guy won a SB, but it took him around 13 years to do it and his offenses have always sucked.  If you want to call for Fox's head and the Big Cat bring in a new guy, that is your opinion, but please don't be naive enough to believe that Cowher is going to be an upgrade.  If anything, he would bring in a new system with new coaches and cramp our potent offenses style and put our defense even further back for the next couple of years.
Let me break down Cowher's & Fox's coaching stats
Bill Cowher:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/c … owhBi0.htm
Bill Cowher's offenses have always sucked?? His offense finished in the top 15 ten times in 15 years and 16th once (7 years Cowhers O finished in the top 10). After 15 years, Cowher finished 59 games over .500 & he was able to produce back to back winning seasons- 6 in a row at one point. You think he would set our Defense back for a couple years??- well how bout this: in 15 seasons his Defense finished in the top 10 twelve times! The lowest it finished was 13th, and it finished in the top 3 six times!! I think I would enjoy that "new system change" you mentioned. Let's not forget his 9 Division titles.
John Fox:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/c … oxxJo0.htm
In 7 seasons Fox's Offense has finished in the top 10 once!! & in the top 16 three times. Whose offense has always sucked??- Yeah you might wanna check your stats. His defense has finished in the top 10 four times in 7 seasons including 2 top 5s. Sounds good but the last 2 years the D has finished 16th and 18th respectfully. Fox has yet to produce back to back winning seasons. After 7 years Fox is at just 14 games over .500
Bill Cowher's offense averaged finishing better than 62% of other offenses in the league, Fox's Offense is at better than 38% of Offenses in the league. Cowher's offense doesn't seem to sucky now does it? He never had a Steve Smith on his team on top of that. Not to mention he won a Super Bowl. Now, I know it took him a while to do it, but he still has one and Fox doesnt, sh** Fox can't even win 9 games 2 years in a row.
How would this not be an upgrade?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

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jayj6 wrote:

You guys must not know Richardson very well.
Yeah your right, Richardson acts like he's scared to do it. A coaching change can be good sometimes, and it will be when one happens for the Panthers.

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