Danger said it, STOP trying to win with Jake throwing the ball everywhere it didn't work then, and wont now. Run first, sneak a play-action it every now and then, win. Does anyone remember when they where a bit surprised to see the Panthers pass the ball? I do, and that's what we need to get back to. The QB is the same, the play selection is whats changed. Oh yeah, good to see ya back jayj6. GO PANTHERS!!!!