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Re: BOLD CONCLUSION......

J Thomas wrote:

I'm one if not the quickest to bash Gohomme when he plays a bad game but you can't put this one on him.  Fumbles, dropped passes, and horrible route running along with two big passing plays by the Saints last this game.  Gohomme hit DeAngelo square in the hands and it was dropped, Gohomme laid one out to Jarrett on the fly route and it went right through his hands, then Smith, who I agree has lost a step or two this season, blew his route at a critical time in the game again.
Thank you.  If our RECEIVERS do THEIR JOB, Jake looks like a hero with 250-300 yards passing, high completion %, and 2 TD/0 INTs.  That's a helluva game against a defense that is #1 in takeaways.


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there are a few people on here who use good logic in what comments they decide to post, if your someone who is going to blame every loss this team has on jake you need to have a reality check. Reality is that jake makes bad choices and he has lost us games. But to just come on here a blow up about him when he clearly wasn't the reason why the panthers lost this game is just ignorant and is one of those moments when you need to think about what your going to post. I try to respect everyones point of view but it makes it that much harder to see your way when your making arrogant comments about things


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BTW, Stewart had an AWEFUL game.

13 carries for 24 yards?  It wasn't the O-Line's fault.  The same line blocked for D-Will to get 150 yards/2TDs.  Granted 66 came on one play, but he consistently did a better job at reading the holes.  Stewart made 1 good run that got us to the 1 yard line, but terrible play calling, having to call the timeout, and a dropped TD pass to Williams busted a drive that could have put a dagger in the Saints.


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The problem today was not the play of the quarterback.  It has been in some of the previous games, but not today.  Today Gohomme played well enough for the Panthers to win.  He didn't lose the game for us.

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Some of the dumbest comments I have seen on this forum. Some of you blame Jake whatever happens! Get this through you thick skulls- Jake does what the coaches tell him. Blame Davidson for getting so conservative in the thied quarter. Blame Fox for not getting more aggresive in playcalling. Blame receivers who can't hold onto balls.


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very true thomas


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Jayman8003 wrote:

there are a few people on here who use good logic in what comments they decide to post, if your someone who is going to blame every loss this team has on jake you need to have a reality check. Reality is that jake makes bad choices and he has lost us games. But to just come on here a blow up about him when he clearly wasn't the reason why the panthers lost this game is just ignorant and is one of those moments when you need to think about what your going to post. I try to respect everyones point of view but it makes it that much harder to see your way when your making arrogant comments about things
Again--my point of rebuttal exactly.  I came away from this game thinking a few thoughts:

1)  John Fox's must give terrible half time speeches.  Every game, the 3rd quarter kills us.  We come out flat, give up big plays, and have little to no offense

2)  Davidson's play calls are predictable.  We started the game with some flair but after that, it was easy for the Saints to see what we were doing.

3)  Coaching...those first 2 guys...they suck.  We were 3-4.  No need to be that conservative with a lead against a top offense that we KNOW can score quickly.  You have to roll the dice on Jake.  I don't think he made 1 questionable pass all day long.  Not one time was I saying to myself, "please don't be a pick!!!"  60-40 run to pass is Panthers/Delhomme football.  This 80-20 crap doesn't work against a team that can score back on you.  Jake has improved in every game this year passing the ball and making decisions.  Watch the tape.  I wish our coaches would.

4)  The entire team just sucks.  There is no leader.  No emotion.  No heart.  Just when I think someone with heart is stepping up (Peppers) he lets me down by practically going to sleep on every play.

5)  I dunno what happened to my 12-4 Panthers.  Honestly I think it starts with coaching.  No one is buying into Fox's system anymore and it's showing on the field.  A new, fresh coach and system on this exact same team would show drastic changes in our record. 

Final burn:

Attitude reflects leadership.  Our attitude sucks and our leader is John Fox.


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