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....YEAH!!!! What he said!!! In YO FACE!!!

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So illegal procedures and jumping offsides is the coach's fault? NOT. Moose's stupid azz walked over to DJ and told him something, got the penalty, but that's Fox's fault-comatose thinking right there homie. And what major injuries have the Colts and Saints had? manning? Clark? What about the saints-brees? colston? I don't think so. The special teams is a problem but again when you dont have depth and playing with fill ins and the brass didn't want to sign mark jones back you gonna have issues. I guess the 12-4 first round bye, best mark in history last season with a worthless qb and ONLY 2 pro-bowlers was lack of coaching and just nothing right? Pahh-whatev  (Eyes rolling)
I think what he is saying is that this team has lost focus which results in penalties for not being ready on game day. A team being prepared and focused for a game IS the responsibility of the head coach. A team that has lost confidence in their coach is going to lose focus.

As for injuries, the majority of key injuries for us have occured on the defensive side of the ball, still the defense has played pretty well so I could not blame injuries on the reason for bad play calling or losing overall. The Saints have been without Darren Sharper (early in the season), Jabari Greer, Tracy Porter, Reggie Bush, Lance Moore, and Scott Fujita that I know of so clearly, EVERYONE faces injuries.

Please can we stop bringing up the past to support John Fox unless you can tell me how a 12-4 record last season can help this team win games this season, its not a justified argument. The team is falling apart and he is losing control. Everyone can continue to make excuses for him and if he stays im sure we will be having this same discussion next year. But sometimes there is a need for change just for the sake of change, like it or not.


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Think about it...T Davis, Kemo, Goodson, Godfrey, Gross, Leonard, Tyler, C. Harris, L. Johnson. Plus Stewart, pep and Hoover banged up every week, Brayton, and Munnerlyn out for a few games.
All those injuries to the defense and they're still playing solid?

What's the offense's excuse?


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So illegal procedures and jumping offsides is the coach's fault? NOT. Moose's stupid azz walked over to DJ and told him something, got the penalty, but that's Fox's fault-comatose thinking right there homie. And what major injuries have the Colts and Saints had? manning? Clark? What about the saints-brees? colston? I don't think so. The special teams is a problem but again when you dont have depth and playing with fill ins and the brass didn't want to sign mark jones back you gonna have issues. I guess the 12-4 first round bye, best mark in history last season with a worthless qb and ONLY 2 pro-bowlers was lack of coaching and just nothing right? Pahh-whatev  (Eyes rolling)
Dude please you and McGribble both need to leave the Meth alone. First and foremost 92 yards in penalties are symptomatic of poor coaching no matter how you spin it. If it was 32 yards even 52 yards we could say its all the players fault. True, Fox isnt the one on the field screwing up but he has to take FULL responsibility for fielding such a poorly disciplined team. They were mentally unprepared and obviously thats his job! Let me ask you this "homie" how many times yesterday did Matt Moore come close to getting delay of game because the play isnt coming in quick enough? Oh yeah I know its all Davidsons fault!

Indianapolis Colts: Bob Sanders (Pro Bowl Safety)on IR, Marlon Jackson (starting CB) IR, Jim Sorgi (backup QB {not that he's ever gonna play}) IR, also currently out with injuries Anthony Gonzalez (TE) and Adam Vinatieri (Pro Bowl Kicker)

New Orleans Saints: Jammal Brown (Pro Bowl Offensive Tackle) IR, Heath Evans (Starting FB) IR, Leigh Torrence (DB who's season ending injury prompted the Saints to bring back DB MIke McKenzie) additionally Scott Fujita (Starting LB) out, and Jabari Greer (Starting CB) out.

Do your homework "homie"...before you come at me sideways like that!

As for our un-Special Teams thats once again the Head Coach and GMs job to fix, which was just as sorry last year as they are this year! They hired Danny Crossman and THEY made the decisions on who to cut and keep not this mythical BRASS you speak of. Fox and Hurney are the brass dude!!!!

And finally we went 12-4 back in 1996 (might I add against a much tougher schedule). Last year we had the AFC West (Chiefs, Raiders, Broncos, Chargers) and played badly against a dreadful Oakland in which Jake threw multiple picks, also the NFC North (Lions, Bears, Packers, Vikes) and lost to a Favre-less Viking team in which Jake stunk it up as well! Thats the problem with Fox lately he's only successful against soft schedules. We dont have time to wait around for the next soft schedule...HOMIE!!!

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fourthward wrote:


darealpanther wrote:

The only fault Foxy has this year is leaving Jake at qb and that's because as we are seeing, there is not a better option till next year in the draft/FA hopefully. Moore is not the answer unfortunately.
I suppose the super conservative play calling (especially when our season is already lost), the disproportionate run/pass ratio when by his own declaration we are a ground oriented offense are all a mirage. Not to mention the horrid special teams, the painfully obvious lack of in game adjustments and overall poor decision making. For example yesterday the decision to attempt a 53 yard field goal on 4th and 3. To go for it here leaves you no worse off if you dont make it than attepting a field goal whether you make it or not.

The thing is Fox has clearly lost the focus of his team, look no further then the 92 yds in penalties yesterday and it can only stand to get worse under his direction. And if you believe Jake wouldnt have thrown AT LEAST 4 more picks in the past 2 games youve gotta be comatose!

Injuries can be used as an excuse but how legit is it really. The Saints and Colts have starters on IR too and we can see how they have overcome them. How many of our losses can be pinned on injuries...seriously??? Maybe 1. The rest are due to subpar playcalling and turnovers...POINT BLANK! NO WAY AROUND IT!

Am I a Foxy hater...NO! I respect his accomplishments here and appreciate what he has done as our HC, but he needs a change of scenery and so do we!
So illegal procedures and jumping offsides is the coach's fault? NOT. Moose's stupid azz walked over to DJ and told him something, got the penalty, but that's Fox's fault-comatose thinking right there homie. And what major injuries have the Colts and Saints had? manning? Clark? What about the saints-brees? colston? I don't think so. The special teams is a problem but again when you dont have depth and playing with fill ins and the brass didn't want to sign mark jones back you gonna have issues. I guess the 12-4 first round bye, best mark in history last season with a worthless qb and ONLY 2 pro-bowlers was lack of coaching and just nothing right? Pahh-whatev  (Eyes rolling)
its the coaches job to have them ready every week, not to mention all the other helpers he has "dline co, off coord, def coord, oline co, ect" ALL WORK FOR FOX.... so that being said, and i hope all who dont undertand, learn it, all roads and signs point to fox, plain and simple, he is the head coach


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Yeah what FOURTHWARD SAID BAMM! IN YOURS AND YO MAMA FACE! HOMMIE


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