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Re: Moore and the DRAFT...what to do what to do.....

Tarheel, I believe it was me that posted about Fox being loyal to a fault. When he didn't play #34 after absolutely shining in the preseason I knew then that Fox had a fatal flaw. The Delhomme/Moore situation just solidifies this point. I'm still not 100% convinced of Moore yet but I am convinced that its him, not Jake that gives us our best chance to win right now. As far as Jarret I still feel the kid hasn't been given a consistant opportunity. I could be wrong on him but I just get the irking feeling that if he's cut he will go to another team and excel!

Dezzy I thought we went through this already. 1st off like Pantherman said, 34 aint going nowhere!!! From all indications Fox and Hurney don't have the authority to do anymore long term deals at this point...which i think is very telling of their future. Quit all the nervous talk, D. Williams is a mainstay!

Begasu at the end of the season we either have to sign Peppers to a deal, franchise him (again)or he walks. Those are the only options. Of course if we sign him then we can trade him but not before.

With all that said Moore has definitely outplayed Jake in just 3 games compared to Jakes 11.

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fourthward wrote:

As far as Jarret I still feel the kid hasn't been given a consistant opportunity. I could be wrong on him but I just get the irking feeling that if he's cut he will go to another team and excel!
3 yrs worth of practices, training camps, mini-camps and ota's???? I am an over the hill slow 50 year old...in other words I just dont have that extra little burst of speed to consistently get myself open...but one thing for...for 100's of thousands of $$$$ i would to the very least lineup in the correct position...so there is a irking feeling that if 80 went to another team it could bite back and hurt the team...I'd take that chance because as is he is on the team and not contirubting much (hurting the team) IMO Fox ahs been over loyal to 80 to a fault....3 yrs of next to nothing is quite enough....


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We might be looking for another RB if we don't hurry and sign Williams!  That being said....I believe in Matt Moore!
I honestly think Williams will stick around. He needs to get paid though. That is for sure. I hope Moore will finish out the year and show us mroe and more improvement. He did everything we needed him to do the other night. That will give the front office a bit more to look at when looking at who to get in the draft. We will see...

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Cornhusker, in 3 years how many times has he even made the active list and in turn onto the field not mention had a pass thrown his way??? John Fox has displayed a  pattern of ignoring unproven talent in favor of lackluster players  who he has a history with. My argument is maybe this is the case with Jarret. I have no proof other than what some jock-sniffing sports writer says that Jarret has a problem lining up correctly. He hasn't been out of place anymore than anyone else that includes O-Linemen. As for the playbook I can teach my dog the Panthers playbook in a week. BUT, like I said I could be wrong...he may very well be a bust! I just don't think it's been proven beyond a shadow a doubt.

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Well its ODD to me the guy(jarrett)can be taught to be a super star at USC but he aint smart enough to work things out in this organization?,,,just seems odd to me is all I'm saying and when you look at the Moore/Delhomme thing and the Foster/Williams thing its not to far fetched to think that maybe Fox has a problem with certain individuals or they arent kissing his ass enough or whatever may be the problem...but I mean the kid was a heck of a player at USC maybe let him play backyard ball and just say go get open and let Moore throw it to him every now and then...who knows?!


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Re: Moore and the DRAFT...what to do what to do.....

I could be wrong here as well...but after 3 yrs...MO would be that time is up!

Believe me I remember 4 yrs ago watching DJ rip the Nebraska defense a new *-hole...so when the Panthers got him in the 2nd rd. I was totally pumped to have him. I simply think that in the realization that all NFL DB's can run...sometimes a great college WR is found-out and/or exposed as being a step slow...nothing against JD just that I think he falls into that category...

time will tell on all of this...but my guess is that 80 will be looking elswhere for a job...

As for the jock-sniffing sports writers...like it or not 9 times out of 10 they do know more than most of us info.-wise


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cornhuskercatfan wrote:

As for the jock-sniffing sports writers...like it or not 9 times out of 10 they do know more than most of us info.-wise
Not really! I worked for the Charlotte Observer for 5 years in the newsroom and trust me guy you would be surprised. Many of these guys are just writers with a degree who was in the right place at the right time and ended up with a job. Have you listened to Charlotte sports talk radio lately? Sports fans want to believe that just because a guy is on the radio everyday or writes for the local rag that their musings are infallible. They give their opinion and fabricate just as much as any fan out there. That's why you have a contingent of athletes (not just Panthers either) that don't trust members of the media and rarely talk to them. I have a decent sports sense and I attend alot of the games and watch things many fans (and writers) usually ignore so I'm pretty weary of the opinions of more than a few of these guys! I've seen them (writers) in action, but that's just me.

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