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Why couldn't this happen...

Call me a simpleton (whoops I probably should not have said that...LOL) but why can't two or even four men who have a 8 year relationship sit down and reach a mutual benefical agreement on how best to proceed into the future...

Why can't Mr. R and MH sit down with 90 and CC and fit things out in this type of way...

Offer 90 a 3 yr deal in the 14m range...if not accepted, let 90 know that the club would like to tag him with the promise of working hard to trade him...

trade him under the following conditions...so he gets his trade & the club get some compensation...

a 1st round draft choice
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a 2nd and 5th round draft choice(s)
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a 3rd and 4th round draft choice(s)
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a 5th, 6th and 7th round draft choice(s)

The club would first seek this trade with the AFC teams of 90's choosing...if no trade...

than the club would seek a trade with the non-south division NFC teams of 90's choice...

Lastly if no trade resulted than the same deal would be offered to NFC south teams...

Now if there still is no takers...perhaps 90 would have to see that there really is not satisfactory interest in him...and if such a fair market trade is just not possible...than rather than playing for rent for one yr at 20 million...90 must agree to the 3 yr 14m offer the club first extended to him...

What am I missing here...is this at all feasible?????


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Danger
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Re: Why couldn't this happen...

Its all very feasible, there are lot of scenarios that could easily work out.  I think a lot of this, right now, is just jockeying for negotiating leverage.

I think the Panthers FO is staying mum to show Peppers that he needs them, not the other way around (even though, I think our D-line would suffer greatly without him).  Peppers and his agent are saying what they're saying to make it seem like he doesn't need the Panthers.

I do believe that Peppers wants to stay, especially with how things were going at the end of last season, but hopefully someone calls the others bluff before its too late.


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Re: Why couldn't this happen...

Danger wrote:

do believe that Peppers wants to stay, especially with how things were going at the end of last season, but hopefully someone calls the others bluff before its too late.
all the jockeying and posturing...really seems non-sensical when considering a relationship that is 8 yrs old...guess I am just a cut out the crap and shoot straight simple dude at heart...of course doing so depends upon trust being the key common denominator b/t the two groups...

While I wrestle with the tag or not to tag option...I do think at the end of the day that the club should get a very respectable 3-4 yr offer out on the table...doing nothing but letting 90 walk just makes zero sense from this little simple corner of the world....


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Re: Why couldn't this happen...

I think Peppers wants to get tagged so he can go to a playoff team that will pay him pretty good and if they don't he will just collect 20 million from the Panthers


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Re: Why couldn't this happen...

He's a freakin LOSER that's why it can't get done. I don't understand why any fan in his right mind would want the guy. He has now become a major cancer and even his biggest supporters are turning their backs on him. All this "posturing" was not in his character until the last 2 years. He used to be a good ole humble southern eastern NC boy. I'm not sure what happened...he found the Lord (NOT), found a girlfriend, didn't like the DC, wants more $$, has a bad agent, or all of the above(?) Bottom line is this, he had his chance to sign and blew it. JRich is a man of strong character and few words who puts the nfl brand and name before everything else (even his own family in some cases), but he will try and make an example of jp. And I will be laughing my tail off.


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Re: Why couldn't this happen...

darealpanther wrote:

JRich is a man of strong character and few words who puts the nfl brand and name before everything else (even his own family in some cases),
Standing on a principle is a very admirable trait and JR should be lauded for such a stand and leadership example! Really hope other NFL owners can have the balls to follow suit!?! I'd like to see him get something for 90...rather than just letting him walk...but, that said, if JR just lets 90 go...as a fan of the club I will trust that at the end of the day this is the very best for the greater good of the whole..as well as the team!


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Re: Why couldn't this happen...

The scenario of JR, MH, 90 and CC sitting down and working things out to everyone's benefit seems like a no-brainer, but it's unfortunately just a huge pissing contest. I place a lot of the blame (as I did last year) on Carl Carey. The guy is a stubborn ass and gives Pep a lot of bad advice, IMO. He wants to be Drew Rosenhaus, but he doesn't have the brains. I mean, Pep is his ONLY client and he can't get a deal done. I think he liked the idea of getting his cut of a $16.7 million dollar, one-year contract, and he even more fervently likes the idea of getting his cut of a $20 million one this season. Therefore he's like Iago from Othello, whispering in Pep's ear all the things he needs to say to get tagged again. He's a slime IMO.


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